tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post318056324911130474..comments2023-08-09T10:02:12.914-05:00Comments on Don't Drink the Flavor Aid: Eloquent Rationally-Sounding Lunatic Ronald WeinlandMike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)http://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comBlogger204125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-74133401030249105112010-11-29T12:10:34.273-06:002010-11-29T12:10:34.273-06:00I want to thank you for continuously revealing thi...I want to thank you for continuously revealing this false prophet. I was working in Virginia with a gentleman who is a follower of Ron who actively tried to recruit me into his church once he found out I am a Christian. As we discussed our faiths I would utilize scriptures to support myself. How did this guy refute me and support himself? "That's not what that means, God hasn't called you to fully understand His words" and "That isn't the proper translation". I hold a Theology degree from an ACCREDITED institution where I studied the original languages. All I could do is offer him love and I will continuously pray for him.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12656672227698584982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-16170309929677750042009-07-10T21:02:43.070-05:002009-07-10T21:02:43.070-05:00Something that's missing from good 'ol Ron...Something that's missing from good 'ol Ron's travel itineraries:<br />"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."<br />- Matthew 23MARK llhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08224296224279429841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-17638139977359358602009-07-10T20:44:17.788-05:002009-07-10T20:44:17.788-05:00I completely understand. I tried to tell a joke an...I completely understand. I tried to tell a joke and talk about my name without giving it. That's basically all that was about.Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-47014172424052021302009-07-10T20:32:32.543-05:002009-07-10T20:32:32.543-05:00dude, please note: i was being sarcastic again.......dude, please note: i was being sarcastic again....i knew you weren't mike....i wasn't trying to guess your name....it is not important to me.toddnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-23198098629083834612009-07-10T20:31:31.634-05:002009-07-10T20:31:31.634-05:00Thanks for not mentioning it. Even the name on the...Thanks for not mentioning it. Even the name on the email address is incorrect. You do have integrity for sure.Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-15397159859713678412009-07-10T20:23:19.124-05:002009-07-10T20:23:19.124-05:00WO: I pretty much figured that wasn't your rea...WO: I pretty much figured that wasn't your real name. You'll note that I haven't mentioned it publicly.Mike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-27488462519600895112009-07-10T20:06:01.245-05:002009-07-10T20:06:01.245-05:00Todd, I understand your intent now. I originally t...Todd, I understand your intent now. I originally thought you were sorry for the fact I misunderstood what you said but never mind as you don't need and never needed to be. No, I'm not Mike. I have a name you probably never heard before. And Mike, it's not the name on the email account I created who's address only God, whoever he revealed it to, you, I, and Cog-pkg who I contacted with it knows. That name was random, maybe a part of my name. Let's not ask for my name now. I draw the line there!Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-73611824849246371952009-07-10T19:45:42.152-05:002009-07-10T19:45:42.152-05:00If Weinland Observer is "Mike", he's...If Weinland Observer is "Mike", he's not this MikeMike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-61211405763902691912009-07-10T19:41:00.124-05:002009-07-10T19:41:00.124-05:00w/o,
are you mike?w/o,<br /> are you mike?toddnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-76486559451655789892009-07-10T09:03:41.617-05:002009-07-10T09:03:41.617-05:00Appology excepted Todd. Kicking a dog was from som...Appology excepted Todd. Kicking a dog was from someone else.Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-359495434999854752009-07-10T07:44:03.886-05:002009-07-10T07:44:03.886-05:00hey, i'm the one that made the dog comment.......hey, i'm the one that made the dog comment....and it didn't say anything in reference to kicking a dog...<br /> it was in reference to an old song that said in the lyrichs "when i'm a good dog they sometimes throw me a bone."<br /> the other "be good johnny" was a reference to another song and was not intended to "name you" as wo thought.<br /><br /> my appologies to mike. my BS tolerance level was very low that day and it was probably a bad attempt at sarcasm on my part.toddnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-49508579964129923052009-07-09T22:42:20.167-05:002009-07-09T22:42:20.167-05:00I wish this mistake didn't keep on happening.
...I wish this mistake didn't keep on happening.<br />Thanks Mike. I don't mind challenging questions. It's nice that you clean things up around here. I'll stay for now. I just hope people realize some of thes brainwashing alligations are correct. You showed your integrity by not jumping at the opportunity when my age was figured out and i confirmed it. I was almost certain you would write up something on me as an example of how young weinland followers are being recruted, etc.<br />P.S. I will admit something here and now. Even if you would have let me post that email, it would have been a very dumb decision to make as any given person could have made up stories and gotten me in contact with them. I'll keep that in mind so that I don't make such a decision someplace where t<br /><br /><br />P.S. i did correct something. The A prophesy is and A preddiction is" post I had needed to be completely rewritten. The first post really did make me look either deluded or philosophically unbalanced.Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-22581596046329400492009-07-09T22:39:50.975-05:002009-07-09T22:39:50.975-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-57835547949451095702009-07-09T22:23:19.634-05:002009-07-09T22:23:19.634-05:00I have to disagree with much of what Purple Hymnal...I have to disagree with much of what Purple Hymnal posted here. With the similar "handles" he got the two of you mixed up, which I must admit to having an initial bit of confusion when the two of you started commenting here.<br /><br />Since you came here "prewashed", I don't think that Observer is doing anything to recruit you.<br /><br />As far as the insults, I remind you that I moderated out the dog thing, and the offender backed off. When it comes to the delusion thing, it's happened relatively few times considering the focus of this blog. If you've received a bit of flack here, compare that to what a Weinland critic would have received on The Weinland Witness forum (if the comment was even allowed in the first place).<br /><br />When you make a statement and are challenged for proof, provide a rational answer. For example, I have asked you several times for reliable statistics for your claim that the thunders have increased. No answer. <br /><br />If you mistate something or don't get it quite right, have the courage to acknowledge it. I admitted to an error previously, and Dill Weed did himself today.<br /><br />I hope you'll decide to stay, but that is your decision. You'll have to understand that you may be challenged here, and perhaps strongly at times. But I won't tolerate gratuitous statements such as the dog thing. You seemed to brush it off at the time, but it appears that it still rankles with you. I'm sorry that happened, and did what I could to remedy it.Mike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-28518715875694785342009-07-09T21:41:46.671-05:002009-07-09T21:41:46.671-05:00Purple Hymnal, what's your problem with two pe...Purple Hymnal, what's your problem with two people being nice to each other and having a good conversation? You know very well Observer isn't brainwashing me. Even if you were to ask my parents, they would say my oppinions come from research. I'm glad I have the freedom that I have. I could see some here wishing they could take my computer away from me. My parents wouldn't. They know I do research and not anything inappropriate. They respect my curiosity and give me advice that I take while knowing I have other ways of seeking advice, through research and God.<br /><br />So Purple Hymnal: According to you do I have to not talk to anyone or specific people? Am I not supposed to be on this blog? Do people not have the right to be friendly because of my age? Is this your view? Again, if I were in your hands I probably wouldn't be reading the words Ronald Weinland anytime soon.<br />Again, this is why I hesitated posting my age. False alligations are coming up and I'm thankfull I can't be found by certain people here. I am carefull and if things get out of hand I may not be posting here.<br />Keep your assumptions out of this, please and know that 15 though I may be I am not a tool people think is being used or someone you can take a few stabs at for the fun of it. To those of you here who treat me with respect thank you.<br />Just to clarify, nobody has or will be able to hurt me here. However if people wish to start insulting me by using terms such as kicking a dog, calling me deluded, etc, I will leave as I have no intention of going online to get insulted or be talked about as if I'm being used.<br />I hope to be able to stay on this forum , but it depends on the people here.Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-16544364162735688272009-07-09T19:57:19.846-05:002009-07-09T19:57:19.846-05:00And the love-bombing continues.......And the love-bombing continues.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-39338730684820132512009-07-09T09:08:42.558-05:002009-07-09T09:08:42.558-05:00WO: You are truly blessed to have a family that ge...WO: You are truly blessed to have a family that gets along. Soon families will not be divided spiritually either. How wonderful! Three of my children are in university. None of them want to have any kind of relationship with God. For them, He is irrelevant. Funny how it bothers them so much though that I believe, even though I say nothing to them unless asked. I still think it's a good idea for them to go on with their studies and encourage them to do so (verbally and financially) : ) I certainly don't regret my years spent in "higher learning". What you learn in and out of classes is important.<br />As for your blog on Ron, if your parents are OK with it, I think it could be a very rewarding "hobby." <br />I wish you all the best and you know how to contact the Church if your circumstances change. Don't be afraid to talk to your parents about the Church. In a loving family relationship such as you have, you should be able to talk to them about everything. Obviously, you have a "good head on your shoulders" and I'm sure they know that.Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-64422243264380379692009-07-09T08:07:02.479-05:002009-07-09T08:07:02.479-05:00Observer, I pray for a lot of people at different ...Observer, I pray for a lot of people at different times. Fortunately though, my family is one of those few that is not divided.<br />I also understand something else now and it is that when you said that there were some people you wanted me to contact, you never intended for me to find a way through this particular blog. I'm glad there is an actual rule on personal contact through this blog now as I don't feel like a second class citizen. It's not anyone's blog other than Mike's so he can decide what goes on and doesn't go on here. I do think the personal contact rule makes more sence than the original concept of not allowing a blog for Weinland followers to exchange contact info.<br />Lastly, I actually have had the good fortune of having a family that isn't divided. Everyone in my family gets along well. I'm the only one who believes the truth for now, but from a physical standpoint and in comparison to some other families I feel fortunate as to my condition.<br />P.S. What do you think of the fact that I'm starting a blog on Ron? I'm going to kep in mind what Ron stated in the past, always direct people to the website while I'm at it.<br />Good luck to you or whoever is in your family who is going to University, either one. May it be helpful in the new World as well.Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-82219718356389737142009-07-09T07:43:11.688-05:002009-07-09T07:43:11.688-05:00WO: Your comment will probably be deleted since it...WO: Your comment will probably be deleted since it came up as Anonymous. Just wanted to let you know that I read it and am glad you understand. I'm sure you do already but, pray for your parents and ask God to "show them favor". He delights in giving His children good gifts and this would certainly be a wonderful gift! : ) Satan has left the world in such a mess with families divided. Only God can change all of that.Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-46418762100733036422009-07-09T07:38:26.811-05:002009-07-09T07:38:26.811-05:00Repost. Thanks for the advice, Observer. I will he...Repost. Thanks for the advice, Observer. I will heed it. I know all commandments are to be kept, and not one is an exception. I actually completely understood what Ron was saying on the subject last year. I figured I couldn't be baptized at the time even before Ron officially stated it. It's the law/common sence. Still, there is no reason for anyone to think you're taking advantage of me. Honestly, when my age was guessed I was wondering whether such a thing would take place: (alligations on someone or another) A lot of people here have been nice to me. Nothing wrong with that.Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-67428019155855430742009-07-09T07:23:16.815-05:002009-07-09T07:23:16.815-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-39229069215273810852009-07-09T06:33:56.767-05:002009-07-09T06:33:56.767-05:00Purple Hymnal: First of all, it is Weinland Observ...Purple Hymnal: First of all, it is Weinland Observer that is 15 years old and I assume that it is me who you were accusing of doing the "love bombing". I am not the only one who has kind to WO. I'm just the only one that you would have a motive for making ridiculous accusations about so that you can slander COG-PKG. If, indeed, COG-PKG was going after young people, WO would have no trouble being baptized. As has been fully stated already, this is not the case.<br />All who are interested: Anyone that is not part of PKG must go through the process of contacting the Church through the normal channels and will then be directed to the elder in charge of their area. If the person is underage contact will not be continued unless there is written permission from the parents. I completely agree with the Church's position on this. As a parent myself, I would not want to see my child being proselytized against my will.<br />If I had a 15 or 16 year old like WO who was obviously very well informed and interested in finding Truth I don't think that I would object to him e-mailing people close to his own age to have discussions on the subject. If you go all the way back to the beginning (several blogs ago) you will find out that this was my intention. <br />WO: Keep "studying to show thyself approved" and "don't let people look down on you because of your age." In Paul's day you may have been considered "of age", who knows, but in our society, you have a few years to go. : ) Obey God as He reveals Truth to you and this includes obeying your parents. God will give you greater grace. Pray about it and perhaps your parents will allow you to have some contact with the Church. In any case, the time is short. Do all that you need to do to STAND.Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-71211315554931631692009-07-08T21:55:53.771-05:002009-07-08T21:55:53.771-05:00For those of you observing the PKG wannabes on thi...For those of you observing the PKG wannabes on this blog, you will note that Weinland Observer is consistently engaging in "love-bombing" tactics (i.e., offering constant praise, admiration, etc.) -- towards a 15-year-old child.<br /><br />This indicates that the church is still targeting children with its recruitment tactics, just as they attempted to do in early 2008, before the hue and cry on the ex-CoG blogosphere led Weinland to announce that elders and church members were to turn the children back to their parents.<br /><br />Weinland Observer does not seem to be doing a very good job of that, now does he? But that was an order given by Weinland during Timeline One, so of course it's now invalid.<br /><br />The children are, once again, fair game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-8532089152643704862009-07-08T09:30:39.107-05:002009-07-08T09:30:39.107-05:00Dill, Ron wouldn't have emphasized the fact t...Dill, Ron wouldn't have emphasized the fact that we were through half a time if the Last Great Day Sermon was a timeline change.<br />As for me being conned, etc, do I honestly sound like someone who would believe anything? If you knew me you would know this for sure. Then again, you know me in a way although you don't know who I am. Paradoxic statement that one.Weinland Observernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-10023097167564038592009-07-08T09:21:22.397-05:002009-07-08T09:21:22.397-05:00WO,
The question was one that called for a yes or...WO,<br /><br />The question was one that called for a yes or a no, you answered, "I have an open mind.<br /><br />A direct answer is either yes or no. But, that's fine because we got to it.<br /><br />WO, we are all in this conversation to really accomplish this: prevent people from being deceived by false prophets.<br /><br />You acknowledge a 'remote possibilty Ron could be wrong'. That's good. <br /><br />I think this is the last I am going to have to say on this. We all expect that soon Ron is going to change the timeline again and we want members and would be members to pick up on that. <br /><br />Together we will be watching what happens.<br /><br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Dill Weed : DDill Weednoreply@blogger.com