tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post5105830738276259474..comments2023-08-09T10:02:12.914-05:00Comments on Don't Drink the Flavor Aid: Ron's Church, An OverviewMike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)http://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-39046560508392550922009-06-07T10:50:56.633-05:002009-06-07T10:50:56.633-05:00"Ron announced the 1st Trumpet blast occurred..."Ron announced the 1st Trumpet blast occurred Dec 14th 2008 (since no one else could hear it but him {He's had a couple of false starts with the 1st Trumpet btw}) and Ron explained the burnt up trees and grass were... drum roll.... spiritual."<br /><br />He said the same thing on <a href="http://weinlandwatch.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/rw-sermon-three-more-weeks/" rel="nofollow">March 22, 2008</a>, shortly before <a href="http://weinlandwatch.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/this-is-your-brain-on-the-seventh-seal/" rel="nofollow">April 17, 2008</a> failed to pan out as the FIRST start of "the Great Tribulation".<br /><br />Of course, <a href="http://weinlandwatch.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/overheard-at-the-ironwolf-crosstime-bar-and-saloon/" rel="nofollow">the start of the second timeline</a> was just as quiet as <a href="http://weinlandwatch.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/this-is-your-brain-on-the-seventh-seal/" rel="nofollow">the first one</a>.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-79047904881695416402009-06-05T23:25:05.246-05:002009-06-05T23:25:05.246-05:00Looks like I have a number of good comments to cat...Looks like I have a number of good comments to catch up on.<br /><br />Richard: No problem. I'm OK with a brief statement, so long as it doesn't turn into a sermon. But I imagine Ron would find another scripture to counter yours, or just blather around it.<br /><br />Frank & Dill Weed: Glad you guys checked into RW a bit further before swallowing what he had. There are too many who buy into it without any research.<br /><br />Whisper: RW has pointed out that money is green, so that's sort of like green vegetation. Never mind all the other countries whose currency is not green.Mike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-19163811955058354982009-06-05T22:08:37.080-05:002009-06-05T22:08:37.080-05:00So RW asked God for the 7 thunders to come.
It ap...So RW <i>asked God</i> for the 7 thunders to come.<br /><br />It appears God said no -- so why hasn't RW accepted that answer?<br /><br />At the risk of being tossed: did he "ask and receive not, because ye asked amiss"? As James 4:3 says?Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11058030312904622191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-51316639904642455652009-06-05T16:56:03.072-05:002009-06-05T16:56:03.072-05:00I found Ron's website online while doing some ...I found Ron's website online while doing some research, downloaded his books because they seemed interesting... until I saw that he claimed to be a prophet and one of the Two Witnesses of Revelation... My biggest regret was printing out one of his books... I still rue the waste of paper. So.. I've been paying him back ever since.<br /><br />h, and I found Mike's blog and left long comments.... then Mike suggest a blog of my own... since I had somethings ;-) to work out. (Heh,heh,heh)<br /><br />Dill WeedDill Weednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-77061305912195862132009-06-05T16:24:40.213-05:002009-06-05T16:24:40.213-05:00============
Just curious. How did you become inte...============<br />Just curious. How did you become interested in False Prophet Ronald Weinland?<br />============<br /><br />One year ago or little more I happened to stumble on this site: http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrld.htm (I won't hide that my interest on the subject was due to severe depression) I guess Weinland's case caught my attention mainly because of the freely donwloadable book.<br />I made some research on the man and his church and so I came to know Don't Drink the Flavor Aid, as well as Weinland Watch and The Weinland Witness. <br />Since I think you guys are doing a purposeful work I then kept checking you out and I guess I'll keep doing it, at least since Pentecost 2012.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-1740635645552059042009-06-05T16:03:40.441-05:002009-06-05T16:03:40.441-05:00I think Ron's sanity is definitely in question...I think Ron's sanity is definitely in question. And, I mean aside from his statement that 'he would be an insane liar if by Pentecost statement.'<br /><br />Delusions, even powerful ones, can break down with repeated contradiction by reality.<br /><br />Cons become impossible to maintain when the con man can't bring himself to keep up the facade anymore.<br /><br />I believe that that point is coming for Ron.... a breaking point... and that it will be pretty spectacular when it arrives.<br /><br /><br />Dill WeedDill Weednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-24319367588603028152009-06-05T15:19:33.883-05:002009-06-05T15:19:33.883-05:00Spritual?
Oh man there goes my spiritual grass &a...Spritual?<br /><br />Oh man there goes my spiritual grass & trees... nuts!<br />what am I going to spiritually shade myself with from the spiritual sun or walk upon with my spiritual feet? Just when ya get a nice spiritual lawn going after much hard work, poof and its gone.<br />Oh well, what can you do? I'll order in some spiritual sod this weekend and get my spiritual irrigation system a-runnin again to spiritually water my new spiritual grass...<br /><br />Ok, so the 1st trumpet is spiritual, shall the next one be as well? Maybe they all are spiritual including the end-game in 2012. That would rather serve ol Ron in that no one could prove him wrong on any of his statements like "There shall be no new president.... spiritually that is".<br />But when 2012 comes and goes what does Ron tell his Sheeples? That they successfully spiritually transitioned the Apocolypse and everyone else they see is but a dead soul with a body walking around doing, well body things... but the soul is quite dead or sound asleep... <br /><br />How much can a sheeple swallow and still stay sane?Whispernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-13997931903681601432009-06-05T12:46:38.906-05:002009-06-05T12:46:38.906-05:00Whisper,
If you could get Ron to answer, he'd...Whisper,<br /><br />If you could get Ron to answer, he'd just gruffly refer you to the FAQ on his website. (Referal to the website is consider 'ministry')<br /><br />Or..., you could catch a humorous sumary of his weekly sermons at my site Ronald Weinland - The Prophet Who Failed (kindly linked by Mike)<br /><br />To catch you up...<br /><br />Ron announced the 1st Trumpet blast occurred Dec 14th 2008 (since no one else could hear it but him {He's had a couple of false starts with the 1st Trumpet btw}) and Ron explained the burnt up trees and grass were... drum roll.... spiritual.<br /><br />Dill WeedDill Weednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-18001870991706037632009-06-05T12:24:18.555-05:002009-06-05T12:24:18.555-05:00...as an aside I still must be preceiveing this wh......as an aside I still must be preceiveing this whole 4th economical thunder all wrong because the stock market just keeps steadily climbing thereby continually turning down the volume of Rons thunder... the job market is still depressing though. Where is the economic meltdown promised by Ron? Meltdown is a word with rather large conotations... like economic disaster, economic ship going under, massive inflation, jobless rates hitting 50%, food riots, anarchy in the streets... where is all this turmoil? Is it possible that Ron could que us into the specifics without the "it's happening spiritually" response? <br /><br />On that note where has the 1st trumpet gone? Where is the 1/3 grass & trees destroyed? Why is America still here, in still good condition mind you, and why do we have a President? <br /><br />Did I a-read incorrectly from Ron's book? Has my mastery of the English language, as written, deteriorated so much that I can not even read a book and get it even close to right? <br /><br />Ron? Mind helping us out here?Whspernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-38022374633334249282009-06-04T22:54:40.579-05:002009-06-04T22:54:40.579-05:00Mel, Frank:
Thanks for the good word.
Just curio...Mel, Frank:<br /><br />Thanks for the good word.<br /><br />Just curious. How did you become interested in False Prophet Ronald Weinland?Mike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-77309102874001663112009-06-04T14:42:50.775-05:002009-06-04T14:42:50.775-05:00==========
Don't know how he'd explain it ...==========<br />Don't know how he'd explain it away if I got hit by a bus (I'm supposed to die from the inside).<br />==========<br /><br />LOL<br />Well I guess that would be a case of internal bleeding as a result of an external trauma.<br /><br />Anyway, I've been reading you since months now (I'm from Italy, btw) and just wanted to say good job Mike.Franknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-60979462870578819192009-06-04T03:11:34.434-05:002009-06-04T03:11:34.434-05:00Ha!
I guess I'm dating myself, too, on that on...Ha!<br />I guess I'm dating myself, too, on that one!<br /><br />BTW, I found your piece to be an excellent overview of Weinland and his lack of integrity.<br /><br />~MelMelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-4259462523713059742009-06-03T20:52:38.345-05:002009-06-03T20:52:38.345-05:00Thanks for the updates, Mel. I can also be contac...Thanks for the updates, Mel. I can also be contacted via email. My address is on the picture of the mailbox in the right-hand column on the blog.<br /><br />Whisper: Were I to live another 100 years, Ron would define that as "speedy" in the context of 6000 years of human history. Don't know how he'd explain it away if I got hit by a bus (I'm supposed to die from the inside).<br /><br />And when I attended, Pentecost was always on Monday. Yeah, I know -- dating myself.Mike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-60884104880325949972009-06-03T15:54:33.787-05:002009-06-03T15:54:33.787-05:00"No, HWA changed Pentecost from Monday to Sun..."No, HWA changed Pentecost from Monday to Sunday."<br /><br />Yup. Concur with J, although I never knew that: As far as we were concerned (post-1975), it had always been Sunday.<br /><br />Now, that's not to say one of the old-timers didn't slip in a "when gawd revealed new truth to Herbie" at any point, they very well could have; it just would have flown right over my head, at that point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-43789090465508354762009-06-03T15:16:26.425-05:002009-06-03T15:16:26.425-05:00Inconvienent truths.
Dill WeedInconvienent truths.<br /><br />Dill WeedDill Weednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-9366566251735601862009-06-03T13:46:15.390-05:002009-06-03T13:46:15.390-05:00No, HWA changed Pentecost from Monday to Sunday.
...No, HWA changed Pentecost from Monday to Sunday.<br /><br />-<br /><br />Thanks for the investigative journalism, Mike.<br /><br />I love reading about all the stupid stuff RW said in the past which then comes back to bite him today.<br /><br />Last time I saw his site, he had everything on there, including the radio interviews where he gave his big "If by Pentecost" declaration, so I'm surprised that he has removed some of his own things after all. Self-censorship, that says it all. He knows he has lies to cover up.Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-59840199258004223632009-06-03T13:37:46.149-05:002009-06-03T13:37:46.149-05:00This is not a message meant to be posted.
I'm ...This is not a message meant to be posted.<br />I'm glad you have done such good work on this, and I read and noticed a couple things at <br />http://ronaldweinland.info/<br />:<br />Under,<br />"Ronald Weinland's False Prophecies"<br /><br />it says:<br /><br />Fifth Thunder: Death in 3 phases:<br /> 1. The early deaths of 5 specific ministers, <br /> followed by the deaths of all other ministers in completing splinters of WCG<br />=====================<br />.................<br />Maybe "completing" should be "competing"<br />.................?<br />=====================<br />And, under...<br />"Ronald Weinland's Theology"<br /><br />it says:<br /><br />"This ultimate doctrine derives from Herbert Armstrong, who changed Pentecost observance from Monday to Sunday."<br /><br />......................<br />Didn't Herbie change it from Sunday to Monday?<br />......................<br /><br />===================<br /><br />Just trying to help. <br />~MelMelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-59316583033929258792009-06-03T07:43:24.164-05:002009-06-03T07:43:24.164-05:00"How much more specific can one be to show th..."How much more specific can one be to show that he is either of God, and indeed His prophet, or someone who has clearly stepped over the line to be dealt with by God in a speedy manner. Time will tell! And, you don’t have long to wait!"<br /><br />Bless ol Ron, he was right, we didn't have long to wait. <br />But I rather guess that the word "speedy" has a differnet definition in Rons vocabulary than the English Dictionary (any one, pick one). For the "speedy" death of some (ay Mike?) did not exactly happen per the dictionaries definition of the word either. <br />Go figure?Whispernoreply@blogger.com