tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post569665158471405984..comments2023-08-09T10:02:12.914-05:00Comments on Don't Drink the Flavor Aid: Round 2, Weinland Vs WashtayMike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)http://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-70110627801296374032009-02-15T02:56:00.000-06:002009-02-15T02:56:00.000-06:00Mike,I will admit, and as you know from our earlie...Mike,<BR/>I will admit, and as you know from our earlier chat, I did a lot of speculating on the subject of Jeremy. I was probably wrong. But hey, Ron says the mark of a good follower of Christ is one who can admit to being wrong LOL.<BR/>In all seriousness, I was only speculating and should not have presented that as something I knew as a fact. I could not remember when Jeremy had moved there or if his schooling was here or in Germany. I did actually think it was in Germany though so I guess I was wrong in all accounts.<BR/>DOH! LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-77484558050851430782009-02-14T00:16:00.000-06:002009-02-14T00:16:00.000-06:00I've mentioned the possibility of Weinland ending ...I've mentioned the possibility of <A HREF="http://dontdrinktheflavoraid.blogspot.com/2008/09/does-ronald-weinland-speak-german.html" REL="nofollow">Weinland ending up in Germany</A>.<BR/><BR/>I understood Jeremy has education in graphic arts and German but graduated from a college here in the US. Is he pursuing a graduate degree of some kind in Germany?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Ron's IRS problems will adapt his plans. Jeremy moved to Germany in May/June, and I think it was several weeks later before Ron found out that he was under a criminal investigation. Not up on international law, but I rather suspect Germany would extradite him to face any charges the IRS might present.Mike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-7018843040836196182009-02-13T23:58:00.000-06:002009-02-13T23:58:00.000-06:00Mike,Though I stated this to you via email, I thou...Mike,<BR/>Though I stated this to you via email, I thought I would post it here as well for the purpose of others seeing it though I have additional thoughts from when I answered your question earlier.<BR/>You asked...<BR/>Mike A:<BR/>What do you think is Ron's backup plan for when this second timeline fails?<BR/>Maybe a revision to his 50th "truth". Christ will return on Pentecost but he got the year wrong?<BR/>I do not believe Ron will be able to go that long. I do think he will ride this up until it begins to look as if his organization is crumbling. At that point I tend to think he and his wife will meet up with their son who has already moved to Germany. This, in my opinion, is why Jeremy has become fluent in German. Weinland is German and with a name like that he will be readily accepted there. This was actually stated to me by Laura while at the Feast of 2006. There has to be money stashed there already.<BR/>No one can convince me that a man so cunning as Ron would have only one account in one country! How much has he funneled into Germany disguised as money for Jeremy's college expenses? This is something to think about. He must be giving money to Jeremy to live on since he is not working except for the work he has done for the church. In which case, that money would also not be under investigation since it is simply Jeremy's wages as the COG-PKG's webmaster-of sorts. <BR/>Interestingly enough, Jeremy's studies there in Germany was in computer programming. Since this is needed by the church, this makes his college expenses a legitimate church expense that would not need to come out of Ron's accounts. How convienent is that? I cannot prove this is the case but it seems to make sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-31870702327375051432009-02-12T06:35:00.000-06:002009-02-12T06:35:00.000-06:00Mike A:What do you think is Ron's backup plan for ...Mike A:<BR/><BR/>What do you think is Ron's backup plan for when this second timeline fails?<BR/><BR/>Maybe a revision to his 50th "truth". Christ will return on Pentecost but he got the year wrong?Mike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-53044065178368660782009-02-12T02:06:00.000-06:002009-02-12T02:06:00.000-06:00Mike,For the purpose of debate I will say that I d...Mike,<BR/>For the purpose of debate I will say that I do not believe Ron will have a 51st truth.<BR/>This 50th truth gives him credibility in itself (so he thinks). Fifty is a spiritual number; 51 would just be ridiculous and Ron knows this. He has done a great job of playing the number game.<BR/>Notice how his other 49 truths are all divisible by 7 - 7 times 7 = 49<BR/>He wants all to believe that this is God's plan. <BR/>I say that if it was God's plan then Armstrong's original 18 truths would be divisible by 7 as well! God doesn't hang things up in the middle and wait for the other half of a plan. If it was God's plan to be by sevens, then so would Armstrong's list of truths be. Armstrong's would have had to end with either 14 or 21.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-34600831341798259012009-02-07T13:54:00.000-06:002009-02-07T13:54:00.000-06:00I wonder how long these people in his church are g...<I>I wonder how long these people in his church are going to believe this!</I><BR/><BR/>Do you think that most of those who bought the 50th "truth" and timeline change will also buy the 51st "truth" (whatever that turns out to be) and the change to the 3rd timeline?Mike (Don't Drink the Flavor Aid)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15447267814823944883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-19112803115003259312009-02-07T13:45:00.000-06:002009-02-07T13:45:00.000-06:00I am listening to Ron right now and he is saying t...I am listening to Ron right now and he is saying that the financial problems are thunders right now - even though the economy was supposed to be destroyed twice by now. I wonder how long these people in his church are going to believe this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-29532887032096924732009-02-06T23:04:00.000-06:002009-02-06T23:04:00.000-06:00You are welcome Anon.Your input is as well as your...You are welcome Anon.<BR/>Your input is as well as your - and other people's - help in getting the word out to all in your email inbox, in your neighborhoods with whom you speak regularly, in any of your social circles, but especially in your own families that this man is not to be believed, let alone followed. You do not want those you care for to fall into this snare, believe me! Do it for yourselves as well as others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-16501099234552349942009-02-06T21:50:00.000-06:002009-02-06T21:50:00.000-06:00I agree the RW has a an extreme mental illness or ...I agree the RW has a an extreme mental illness or illnesses. I can say with confidence that one of those illnesses is an extreme case of malignant narcissism. You can Google it and come up with all kinds of information about malignant narcissism and he fits it on all counts, in my opinion. The only thing you can do with a person like that is to get away from them, far, far away...as far away as you can, and stay away. They are, as the name accurately says, highly malignant. <BR/><BR/>Thank you, Mike A., for your input. It is needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-81261091601434677072009-02-06T20:33:00.000-06:002009-02-06T20:33:00.000-06:00I am extremely glad to hear you're out of there, M...I am extremely glad to hear you're out of there, Mike A!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-33610623453117150182009-02-06T20:32:00.000-06:002009-02-06T20:32:00.000-06:00like a trapped rat and the water rises....like a trapped rat and the water rises....technosenseihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03612372834565489373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-50570191545657033912009-02-06T19:53:00.000-06:002009-02-06T19:53:00.000-06:00As we all are...Mike A :-) I am very curious how R...As we all are...Mike A :-) I am very curious how RW will play his whole "boondoggle" out.!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-36541604970305453652009-02-06T19:31:00.000-06:002009-02-06T19:31:00.000-06:00One more thing came to my mind in terms of the thu...One more thing came to my mind in terms of the thunders sounding. One of those thunders was for the two witnesses growing in popularity around the world - popularity as far as the world knowing who they are-not 'popularity'. <BR/>About this, Ron said he would be on tv some time soon. That was back in 2007.<BR/>The only interview he had that could have gotten him onto tv so far was in Australia and it portrayed Ron as a deluded man with a mental illness. It also only aired in Australia - nowhere else.<BR/>He has not been on tv since and he can no longer do radio interviews because the hosts are waiting for him so they can declare that he is a false prophet. <BR/>To sum it all up...it is near the end of the road for Ron. I am interested in how he will try to keep afloat through all of this and for how long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-29649922223487825202009-02-06T19:06:00.000-06:002009-02-06T19:06:00.000-06:00I am now writing with my real name because I no lo...I am now writing with my real name because I no longer need to protect my identity. I also want to publicly denounce Ron so that as many people as possible can get away from him. Namely, those friends of mine I left behind.<BR/>Washtay is an Algonquin word meaning 'good'. My name is Mike A.<BR/>If and when Ron reads this, he will know who I am and I am glad.<BR/>I want all who read this and agree with all posts on this site and others to not just read and move on. Do all you can to spread the word about Ron. Do it in a constructive and intelligent way, however. We don't need people thinking we are crazy. That will only make Ron look more appealing to others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-17679086471806934812009-02-06T19:04:00.000-06:002009-02-06T19:04:00.000-06:00I have known people that when you confront them wi...I have known people that when you confront them with your concerns regarding them, they just turn it around and point it back to you. They are strong minded people that known if you question, then your mind is open, and they hope that turning it back to you will make you look at yourself again and question yourself. That is exactly what RW is doing that to Washtay.<BR/>The best thing for him/her to do is walk away. Don't bother asking or trying to get RW to justify anything, he will always bring it back the "questioner."<BR/>Washtay will be frustrated because he/she knows their concerns are valid. And they are looking for RW to agree with their concerns. He's never going to do that.<BR/><BR/>I can get staying in communcation with RW, because frankly, there are folks out there that have to hear this. This man is a "silver tongued devil." to the enth degree!<BR/><BR/>Mike, thanks for giving me a place to vent!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-73171008974917634582009-02-06T13:28:00.000-06:002009-02-06T13:28:00.000-06:00I like how Mr. Weinland chose again to not answer ...I like how Mr. Weinland chose again to not answer the direct question asked of him, but simply commented on "the inability to see" therefore "I don't need to answer the question." -- Logically speaking, if you COULD see, then the question wouldn't be asked. I find myself in the same scenario right now where I'm trying to find the TRUTH in all things...whether it is in scripture or on websites that interpret scripture...or my own thoughts. I only want the TRUTH. Naturally, all students of any topic need to ask questions to achieve a greater understanding. Mr. Weinland seems like, "I've already answered all possible questions spread throughout all my sermons. Go find it." Or, rather he's saying "just trust me." -- That's my two cents. Marc RyanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-5083029206939638592009-02-06T06:58:00.000-06:002009-02-06T06:58:00.000-06:00That latest exchange really demonstrates the "...That latest exchange really demonstrates the "cultish" behaviour on Ron's part - First to say "You don't get it" - (cuz there is nothing to get) - the elusiveness of the "special knowledge & understanding" - and then to "shun" you.<BR/><BR/>I agree with Dennis that Ronald has a mental health issue & I agree with xHWA that Ronald has a BIG CON going on.<BR/><BR/>My concern is that there are people with vulnerabilities (we all have them) out there who can be conned into thinking that Ronald has the answers. This latest exchange clearly demonstrates HE DOES NOT. <BR/><BR/>Thank you, Washtay for allowing this to be printed for everyone to see - & thanx Mike for keeping that light shining on the truth.<BR/><BR/>DebAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-5360181196243166102009-02-06T05:22:00.000-06:002009-02-06T05:22:00.000-06:00Ron's comments are chilling to me having seen and ...Ron's comments are chilling to me having seen and heard this bullshit thrown at members who didn't quite see life through the filter of the minister's mind before. <BR/><BR/>His way of thinking is defective, crude, devious and avoidant. Some form of mental illness or personality disorder at best. <BR/><BR/>He will get worse as time goes on until there is an implosion of some sort. The question is how many will get hurt by the debris.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4786503266762545186.post-64536919194780608402009-02-05T20:21:00.000-06:002009-02-05T20:21:00.000-06:00I read Ron's boiler plate response with it's misdi...I read Ron's boiler plate response with it's misdirection and blame the victim and "spirit" blah, blah, blah and I just can't believe he's pulling that same old scam on people. It's the exact same thing that he wrote to me 9 years ago.<BR/><BR/>He's like a smarmy, weasely carny straight from the midway when the festival rolls into town, but each year you know it's the exact same run down games and rides that were there when you were a kid.<BR/><BR/>He reminds me of that quirky teacher from every high school.. the one with the bad haircut and print short-sleeve button up shirt with a necktie that no one liked and everyone used to call something like "duck butt" behind his back. And no matter how much time goes by, he's still there working at the school. Only now he's got even less hair.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it was all that time he spent working with portable toilets that's affected his thinking. He's even more full of S. than those porta-potties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com