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I have moved my blogging activity to a new location, and I'm still blogging about False Prophet Ronald Weinland.
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This Blogspot remains as an archive covering the period of April, 2008 through early July, 2009.

Saturday, June 28, 2008

It's Not Rocket Science

The Insane Lying False Prophet Ron Weinland has made it official. My speculated timeline is his new revised timeline. Jesus Christ is to return on Pentecost of 2012.

September 30, the Feast of Trumpets, was to have been when his return is announced. But Ronnie violated that by announcing it today. Hanging on to his membership is more important than making the announcement on the required day. Maybe he'll buy time on national TV to announce it to the world on that day.

He went beyond my speculation, tying in the "son of perdition" to Joe Tkach who died 40 weeks or 280 days after his infamous sermon of December 17, 1994. And from Christmas 2007 to Trumpets 2008 is 280 days. Not feeling bad about missing that one. Unlike ILFPRW I have to work for a living.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Pentecost 2012: Who was the First to Predict?

I've presented my speculation as to how Ron Weinland will revise his timeline, with the 1335 days starting on September 30 and ending on Pentecost of 2012 (May 27).

If this is the False Prophet's revised timeline, I'm not really the first one revealing the timeline. A web site called The Shining Light presented pretty much the same timeline back in November, with a few variations in the middle such as that the 1290 days are at the beginning instead of the end.

Anyway, Weinland has promised on his website to reveal all this Saturday.

Tuesday, June 24, 2008

"Good" "News" from Weinland

A new blog post appeared on Ron Weinland's web site this afternoon:

It was mentioned in the sermon this past Sabbath that a sermon would be given on Sept. 30th (Feast of Trumpets) that would explain the 50th truth given to God’s Church in these end times. Since some have been pouring out their hearts to God concerning this matter, God is now mercifully granting that this sermon be given this coming Sabbath.

[I doubt that "pouring our their hearts to God" has anything to do with this yet-another turnaround by Weinland. I suspect that some of False Prophet Ronnie's followers weren't willing to wait.]

This sermon will explain why the final three and one-half years of tribulation has not yet begun. It will explain why the final sealing of the 144,000 has not yet occurred. It is all very exciting, and this is indeed good news for God’s Church that this sermon can be given. I’m very glad and feel very blessed to know that I can now give that sermon this Sabbath and not have wait until Trumpets to do so.

So we won't have to wait until July 16 or even September 30 to get some more clues as to whether my speculated revised timeline with the Great Tribulation reStarting on December 14 is what the False Prophet is planning.

And while the following appears on the front page of the COG-PKG website:
Time is running out before the final Seventh Seal is opened and the world is plunged into the final tribulation for mankind.
the FAQs section still has the rescinded timeline that says that the Seventh Seal opened on March 18. Talk about an author of confusion.

I've noticed that Google is much less likely to return a sponsored link to the-end website for his fictional books. Hopefully that's permanent and not a glitch.

Sunday, June 22, 2008

Following Ron

The audio of yesterday's sermon-without-a-title-or-a-scripture given by False Prophet Ronnie was posted on his church's website, and the title "Following God" was given to it.

At about 36 minutes into the mp3 file, Weinland refers back to Herbert Armstrong's change from a Monday Pentecost to a Sunday Pentecost. The point he made to his followers was that God gave Monday to his church (Armstrong) It would have been wrong for an individual to observe Pentecost on Sunday before God gave the "correct" day of Sunday to his church (Armstrong). This was followed by a claim that God gave the COG-PKG (Weinland) a new understanding of the timing of events.

This begs the question: when God gave the new understanding in 1994 to his church (Tkach), why didn't Ronnie follow? Hmmmm. No matter, the False Prophet's followers are already disposed to follow Ronnie as he turns on a dime.

As further insurance against loss of followers, he admonished them not to discuss the timeline reset among themselves. Another admonition was they they shouldn't worry about having to eat a little crow -- "Suck it up!!!" He expects that some would leave because of the reset, but only because they joined for the wrong reasons. And if they are not excited about the change, they are lacking spiritually.

Other justification he gave was that it gave a sense of urgency to start the Google Adwords campaign. The reset gives time for more training, including to his elders.

In my last post, I speculated that Weinland's new timeline would restart on September 30 (1335 days) culminating in Christ's return on Pentecost of 2012. This was picked up and quoted on another blog and forum without the disclaimer that it's my speculation and not an announcement by Weinland. It was further speculated by another that Weinland was influenced by another theological theorist.

Let me reiterate that it's my speculation based on "reading between the lines" of his sermon and doing a little math. I doubt that Weinland is using the theories of others. I think that although an Insane Liar he's not without intelligence. He's been searching for a way out of his failed prophecies, and he's had plenty of time to think of a way out of this quandry. And as he stated, it's not rocket science. Look for a reRevised Timeline in 2009 when the Revised Timeline falls apart.

I look for him to drop a few more hints over the next three months, and on the Feast of Trumpets (September 30) I expect him to reveal the timeline I've speculated to his followers -- "Surprise, you're all sealed in the 144,000".

I find the title to his sermon incorrect. It should read exactly the same as this post: "Following Ron". The whole sermon was designed to prevent his followers from thinking critically.

Saturday, June 21, 2008

Ron Resets, and a New Plan B

In today's sermon-without-a-title (and without any reading from the bible) False Prophet Ron Weinland expanded on his website post of Thursday and definitely withdrew the 45-90 days prophecy regarding the second trumpet. He stated that the 1335 days have not started and neither has his job as Spokesman Witness. ShadowsOfWCG has more details as well.

In spite of this, he did not admit to being a False Prophet. Nor has he indicated that he will stop preaching and repent as he promised on March 29. It does not appear to me that he's executing the "Plan B" leaked to the Internet a couple of months ago. Rather, he is moving expectations to December, and to the "Jubilee Truth" to be revealed on the Feast of Trumpets (September 30).

The False Prophet spent some time responding to his critics, even mentioning WeinlandWatch's Drinking Game. He even reiterated his threat to his mockers, even though he's not presently one of the two witnesses given his timeline reset. A good deal of his sermon was spent preparing his followers for the ridicule they may face from friend, family, co-workers, etc. He read several letters, including from followers who still believe him despite his failed prophecies.

His Google Adwords campaign continues -- a search on "Nostradamus" will still return a sponsored link for "the-end" website which promotes his toxic books. By moving expectations to December, which is still 2008 he can still use "2008 God's Final Witness" in another timeline.

> speculation on <
Reading between the lines and doing a little math here is my speculation as to the Insane Liar's new Plan B with a new timeline and what his new 50th "truth" is:
  • September 30, 2008 is the Feast of Trumpets. It will also be the Day of the reSealing of the 144,000 (1335 days)
  • November 14, 2008 is the reOpening of the Seventh Seal (1290 days)
  • December 14, 2008 is the reSounding of the First Trumpet (1260 days)
  • May 27, 2012 is when Jesus returns -- on Pentecost.
The 50th "Truth" will be a new understanding of the significance of Pentecost, making it the day of Christ's return. How convenient. The 50th Truth about the 50th Day. Between now and then look for Weinland to make frequent mention of Pentecost to lay the groundwork for this new "truth".

The Google Adwords campaign will continue, perhaps with renewed urgency after September. And if I were one of the Armstrongite ministers prophesied to die in the First Phase of the Fifth Thunder, I'd watch my back, at least up 'til November 14th.

>> speculation off <<

It's pretty clear that the False Prophet Ronnie show is going to continue, whether with the previously leaked Plan B, my speculative Plan B, or some other Plan B. This is unfortunate, since it will continue to harm the majority of his followers who will probably stick with him, and the additional new followers that he'll suck in.

Thursday, June 19, 2008

New "Truth"

After a two-month hiatus during which the Spokesman Witness was to have been prophesying every day according to Revelation 11, False Prophet Ron Weinland has finally put another post on his blog site today. I'm quoting the post in its entirety below since he likely will delete it as he has all the posts before April 17. Interspersed are [my comments].

Weinland's post:
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Some have asked why there have not been any recent postings on this site. The answer is, I have had nothing pertinent to report. I have been doing what others are doing: “waiting.”

[We already knew that you've had nothing pertinent. And that's still the case.]

As I have stated before, I am waiting until July 16 to see whether the Second Trumpet has been blown by that time, which falls within the 90 days I have referenced. [In other words you'll hang in there on the off chance some terrorist happens to make your Second Trumpet prophecy true.] In addition, God has been showing me things concerning the First Trumpet that will be carried out throughout the time of the first four trumpets. [You mean that your prophecies haven't materialized.] However, I have also known that I was not yet to be speaking about those things and I am only now beginning to “see” why. It is because this is for a later time. [No, it's because you've been pulling all of your prophecies out of your other end.]

Since the timing of what I had stated as being the moment when the First Trumpet was blown (April 17), we have seen no clear evidence on a physical plane of the fulfillment of that trumpet, although it has been stated that such things will be revealed throughout the timing of the entire first four trumpets. [You've only stated this recently. In your blog post of April 3 which you've deleted, you said "The process of all that will occur, with the sounding of the First Trumpet, will begin on April 17th and continue to increase in destructive power (consequences) for the following seven weeks.]

Yet, it should be stated again that “nothing” has been seen as evidence on a physical plane concerning this first trumpet, and there cannot be until later in December. So what has happened since April 17? We do clearly see an intensity in the thunders, but only in the thunders. Earthquakes are increasing in magnitude and frequency on a global scale. [Care to back that up with some actual data? I doubt that.]

The destructiveness from weather is growing far more intense with record numbers of tornadoes. Drought conditions are worsening in some areas of the country, yet others are being flooded. Again, the repetitive nature and frequency of these events is what is important to see. Such events have always been part of the human experience, but the escalation in frequency and heightened magnitude of these events occurring so often is what this thunder is all about.

As far as global economic upheaval, every day there are more reports of serious economic problems in banking, brokerages, large corporations, commodities, transportation, etc. We are now getting very close to a total economic collapse.

Such bad news is becoming so common now that people don’t even seem to take notice, but view it as simply a little glitch that will someday go away and no longer affect us. People are truly becoming complacent about bad news and the true realities of life that are before us all.

[Proof texting the headlines. We could debate whether they really are intensified thunders. But first, what about the Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Thunders? Tell us about them. When is the First Phase of the Fifth Thunder going to happen? These were supposed to be sounding loudly when the Seventh Seal was opened on March 18th.]

Although there is a marked increase in the thunders, there is still no physical evidence in the trumpets. And even though I have stated July 16 as a kind of deadline for the Second Trumpet, I am now deeply convinced that nothing concerning the trumpets will have occurred by that time. [A "kind" of deadline? What different "kinds" are there? I can think of two: Firm deadlines. And the fake deadlines that false prophets put out there and then move later when they don't pan out.]

This is not pleasant to have to address, as all of us have planned our lives on such timing. [No, not all of us. Just your deluded followers.] If the second trumpet sounds, with nuclear explosions in port cities, then everything will indeed be fully in line with what I’ve stated in the last interviews and in some sermons. But I do want to state again, I no longer believe that to be the case. [Yep, it's the second kind of deadline -- the fake deadline of a false prophet.]

The bottom line is, I must follow what I believe God is showing me. [God is showing you? No, it's reality.] If I have jumped the gun in a couple of interviews and interjected my own understanding into the timing of events, and have thereby been presumptuous, then I will repent and move forward. [No, it wasn't some offhand comments in the pressure of a couple of radio interviews. You followed up the James Whale interview by preaching a sermon on it. Seems to me you mentioned something to the effect that inspired revelations came out of the James Whale interview.]

I have stated all of this because during last Sabbath’s sermon some scriptures I was reading became magnified in meaning (revealed by God), but what was given to me was not pertinent to that sermon. Each day since this past Sabbath, God has been giving me more understanding concerning the timing of events that I now believe I am to address in the Church, but I cannot do so until after July 16. All this will be explained in sermons after that date. [Gotta leave open the faint possibility that it will come to pass after all.]

There is a lot unsaid at this time because there is too much to address in this posting, and these things must be addressed in their full context through sermons that will cover the subject. [Ron has to leave himself some wiggle room and additional time to make up the revised story.] The bottom line is that I know I am a prophet of God and God’s minister under Jesus Christ, who is the head of the Church of God, the Body of Christ. [But still not the widespread recognition that you've prophesied. A prophet in your own imagination.] As such, I have a job to do and I am going to do it. Some will take great delight in some of this because they do not “see” what God is doing and “why.” [Your use of quotation marks around "see" is quite appropriate. More appropriate would be either "hallucinate" or "imagine" without the quotes.]

If what I have now been given to see over the last few days (and I am deeply convicted of this already), then there will be a very big issue addressed on Trumpets of this year. It will be the 50th truth (of major basic truths) God has given His Church in this end-time. [Come on Ron. If you have new "truth" you should not keep it to yourself. Don't make us wait. Set the "truth" free.]

Some of you who read these postings have not been listening to the sermons on the Church website (www.cog-pkg.org). It would be wise for you to begin doing so if you want to understand these things and if you want to begin to truly grasp where we are in time. [Well, I've listened to them and I can tell you that listening to his sermons with the intent of actually accepting what is said would be quite unwise.] There is so much being revealed on a spiritual plane [the only way it could be spiritual is if you drank to much spirits.] that cannot be covered in such postings as this, and you should not rob yourself of such insight and experience. [Insight???? Gimme a break. You're going to make it up as you go along, just as you have been.]

Because of what God has been giving me over the past few days, I now know that I am to resume the trips Laura and I make to scattered areas, and such trips will be planned all the way up to mid-December. [So I guess we'll have an election in November after all. And you'll be able to travel despite the complete economic collapse.] All of you need to begin adjusting your thinking as you plan ahead. You need to expand your planning by several months, which will be explained in future sermons. [Your critics need make no adjustment in thinking, just your deluded followers. I hope they haven't sent you all their money on the expectation that they wouldn't need it.]

This end-time is not easy to address in our lives, and it can be very difficult to make adjustments according to what God gives to us, or may even withhold from us, until His timing and purpose. This is often done for our good, our training, and our growth. God knows what we need and when we need it. It is our choice to follow. So as always, “We follow God!” [No, you're not following God. You're following an Insane Lying False Prophet.]
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I don't see this as the beginning of Weinland's "Plan B" leaked by "W" a number of weeks ago. I see it as a different "Plan B" that doesn't involve Weinland's stepping down, turning over the church to his "evangelists", and repenting. I think Weinland intends to hang on to his pulpit and as many of his followers as he can. And get even more if he can. The Google Adwords campaign continues, though he has trimmed the number of words that generate a sponsored link to the toxic website the-end which promotes his books.

There no "New Truth" exposed in Weinland's post. It's just the old truth that Weinland is a False Prophet. Hopefully more of his followers will realize it and leave.

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