A few weeks ago, an exiting COG-PKG member posted a message on a forum that included the following "First, if Ron & Laura Weinland and/or the church leadership has anything to do with a nuclear blast they will turned over to the local state police/FBI in Kentucky and Ohio."
And then last week someone who is apparently still in the COG-PKG sent a letter to Bob Thiel with this screed:
"Are there signs you are seeing that your [sic] not sharing? Such as personal health. And if personal health, will you admit so that others that you have effected may start to repent. Can you be honest with your audience about your personal health? Hope you can humble yourself and repent from your blindness and destruction you have been spewing as an instrument of Satan."
The first statement would be in reference to Weinland's prediction of "nukular" explosions in US port cities by July 16, and the second statement relating to Weinland's death curse on his critics. These members obviously believe that the false prophet has extraordinary powers.
What of his "powers"? According to Revelation 11, both the Spokesman Witness and the Silent Witness are supposed to be prophesying every day of the "Great Tribulation". Yet in his sermons it's "god progressively reveals" and statements disclaiming that he is a fortune teller. What prophesies has Weinland put out?
According to Revelation 11, the "Two Witnesses" are to have the power to stop the rain. Those living near the False Prophet's base of Cincinnati would like for him to exercise a bit of this power.
According to Revelation 11, the "Two Witnesses" have the power to turn water into blood. A constructive suggestion for the use of this power has been ignored. Instead, Weinland ridicules those who want to see physical signs.
The only power he's claimed to exercise is the speedily slow death from the inside of those who mock him. There's no indication that any of the bloggers criticizing Weinland are suffering. We only have the claim that it's happening from Weinland -- a man who's a proven liar, still preaching even though it's after Pentecost and the First Trumpet is not "abundantly clear" (or even slightly clear).
Speaking of death threats, those specific ministers such as Rod Meredith who were predicted to die early in the Fifth Thunder are still alive -- each and every one of them. And Meredith at the age of 79 is no spring chicken.
To the followers of Ron Weinland, the only power that he has is the power that YOU have given to him. YOU are the one who has given him the power to separate you from your money, your family, and reality. Hopefully you will soon have ears to hear and eyes to see the delusions in his messages. And that when you do you will remove his only power.
Wednesday, June 18, 2008
Saturday, June 14, 2008
The Insanity Continues
If there was any wiggle room for when Weinland would stop preaching (to allow that possibly the First Trumpet would become "abundantly clear" in the few hours remaining on Pentecost after he preached), the False Prophet used all up of that wiggle room. He gave his sermon as usual. He blathered on for a few minutes about his March 29th promise, something to the effect of not wanting to satisfy his critics and that the First Trumpet was starting, we just couldn't see it yet. Not worth the effort to transcribe.
So much for "powerfully and abundantly clear". Insane Lying False Prophet Ronald Weinland.
So much for "powerfully and abundantly clear". Insane Lying False Prophet Ronald Weinland.
Tuesday, June 10, 2008
A Case Study of a False Prophet
One of the Armstrongite splinters holds forth on false prophecy. Of whom do you think he could be writing?
Sunday, June 8, 2008
Insane Lying False Prophet Ron Weinland
"Now in the US, there’s been fires, flash flooding, and tornadoes. There’s been State-Of-Emergencies in several counties. Any one of those could be the “beginning” that “will clearly encompass” the death of 1/3 of plant life." This is the best that anyone could come up with to address Ron's promise. On top of that Weinland's only blogging apologist claims that Weinland's critics distort his words. He needs to go back to school and learn the difference between "could be" and "will clearly". As far as the minor False Prophet, he offered no explanation. He did make one utterly ironic statement: "There's a demon world out there that likes to play games with human beings, and make people feel that they're special, that they have a special calling, a special purpose .....".
Ron, it's Pentecost and there is nothing happening that "will clearly encompass" the death of 1/3 of plant life. And you preached for two hours today on Pentecost. You did not stop preaching as you promised in your sermon of March 29. You are not true to your word. And you did less than to stop, so by your own definition you are insane.
At least you didn't announce any baptisms.
Insane Lying False Prophet Ron Weinland
Ron, it's Pentecost and there is nothing happening that "will clearly encompass" the death of 1/3 of plant life. And you preached for two hours today on Pentecost. You did not stop preaching as you promised in your sermon of March 29. You are not true to your word. And you did less than to stop, so by your own definition you are insane.
At least you didn't announce any baptisms.
Insane Lying False Prophet Ron Weinland
Will He or Won't He?
Nothing has happened in the few days since my last post to indicate that False Prophet Ron Weinland's predictions of agricultural disaster will come true. And today is the big day: Pentecost.
So the question is: Will he? Will he be true to his word? Will he stop preaching? Will he make me into a false prophet?
Inquiring Minds Want to Know:
Weinland Watch
Ambassador Watch
Church of God News
My answer: He won't. But only a few more hours to find out for sure.
His sermon of June 7 was a bit subdued. He rushed through and completed chapter 5 of "2008 GFW". No big rail against his critics this week -- perhaps he doesn't want to give us any attention for fear his flock will.
The good news is that no baptisms were announced. On the other hand, some of his claims about the popularity of his web site compared to those of competing splinters are confirmed by Alexa. So while the bucks he's throwing at Google Adwords is paying off in terms of traffic to his web site it's not paying off in terms of new tithe slaves. Look at the bottom line Ron. Time to end this silly Google campaign and give the money back.
The only interesting point was when he stated that there were no rainbows before Noah. Amazing. I'm wondering if the laws of physics changed, or if the world was so dry that there was insufficient moisture in the atmosphere to create a rainbow. Actually, no, I'm not wondering. I'll set this next to the "aliens" nonsense that he's still promoting.
So the question is: Will he? Will he be true to his word? Will he stop preaching? Will he make me into a false prophet?
Inquiring Minds Want to Know:
Weinland Watch
Ambassador Watch
Church of God News
My answer: He won't. But only a few more hours to find out for sure.
His sermon of June 7 was a bit subdued. He rushed through and completed chapter 5 of "2008 GFW". No big rail against his critics this week -- perhaps he doesn't want to give us any attention for fear his flock will.
The good news is that no baptisms were announced. On the other hand, some of his claims about the popularity of his web site compared to those of competing splinters are confirmed by Alexa. So while the bucks he's throwing at Google Adwords is paying off in terms of traffic to his web site it's not paying off in terms of new tithe slaves. Look at the bottom line Ron. Time to end this silly Google campaign and give the money back.
The only interesting point was when he stated that there were no rainbows before Noah. Amazing. I'm wondering if the laws of physics changed, or if the world was so dry that there was insufficient moisture in the atmosphere to create a rainbow. Actually, no, I'm not wondering. I'll set this next to the "aliens" nonsense that he's still promoting.
Wednesday, June 4, 2008
Ron Weinland's Revenge on a Critic
Ronnie boy, your curse on me to die from the inside out, like your prophecies, has fallen flat. Your lame attempt at a mind game on your critics by suggesting last Saturday that some of us are having health problems is not working either. Do you really think that your critics are superstitious primitive people who would be influenced by your statement to suffer psycosomatic symptoms? Your critics are inherently skeptical of your statements. Now if you had said the sun was going to come up tomorrow morning, then given your prophetic track record we might start worrying.
On March 29 you made your declaration quoted on a number of blogs:
"If by Pentecost I'm just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching.
"Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on all of those interviews that I have held; to do less, aah well, would be quite insane.
Ron, on April 3 you followed up on your blog with this statement: "The process of all that will occur, with the sounding of the First Trumpet, will begin on April 17th and continue to increase in destructive power (consequences) for the following seven weeks."
Today is the 49th day beginning April 17 and the end of that seven week period. And Pentecost is this coming Sunday. Your version of the First Trumpet has not materialised. It is not powerfully and abundantly clear that something has started that will clearly encompass 1/3 of all plant life. It's not even weakly and slightly clear. In fact, there isn't even a hint.
I hereby prophesy that you, Ron Weinland, will not be true to your word and stop preaching. I would even be willing to accept a brief statement at the beginning of the services next Sunday announcing the termination of your preaching after which you indeed stop preaching. Permanently. Otherwise you will have shown that you are not true to your word, and you will define the state of your sanity.
So there you have it, Ron Weinland. Your opportunity to gain revenge for all the times that I've called you a false prophet. You can make me a false prophet, and all you have to do is keep your word. Ron, do the right thing and be true to your word. Make me a false prophet.
On March 29 you made your declaration quoted on a number of blogs:
"If by Pentecost I'm just going to make this real clear to everyone. If by Pentecost it is not powerfully and abundantly clear that there has been a great deal of destruction that will clearly encompass a third of all plant life in the US and at least the clear results of this mingled with blood the death of very much animal life and the beginning of large numbers of human life then I will stop preaching.
"Just so all the critics and everyone out there will understand. I am true to my word in these things. OK? And for all the critics if by the end of July and for most likely around Pentecost if nothing has clearly caused great destruction and death I will make it very clear that I was a false prophet. I will do exactly what I said I would do on all of those interviews that I have held; to do less, aah well, would be quite insane.
Ron, on April 3 you followed up on your blog with this statement: "The process of all that will occur, with the sounding of the First Trumpet, will begin on April 17th and continue to increase in destructive power (consequences) for the following seven weeks."
Today is the 49th day beginning April 17 and the end of that seven week period. And Pentecost is this coming Sunday. Your version of the First Trumpet has not materialised. It is not powerfully and abundantly clear that something has started that will clearly encompass 1/3 of all plant life. It's not even weakly and slightly clear. In fact, there isn't even a hint.
I hereby prophesy that you, Ron Weinland, will not be true to your word and stop preaching. I would even be willing to accept a brief statement at the beginning of the services next Sunday announcing the termination of your preaching after which you indeed stop preaching. Permanently. Otherwise you will have shown that you are not true to your word, and you will define the state of your sanity.
So there you have it, Ron Weinland. Your opportunity to gain revenge for all the times that I've called you a false prophet. You can make me a false prophet, and all you have to do is keep your word. Ron, do the right thing and be true to your word. Make me a false prophet.
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