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Wednesday, December 17, 2008

Scripture Unexplained

Last Saturday from Jerusalem, False Prophet Ronald Weinland announced the addition to the FAQ section on the COG-PKG website. The page is titled "Scripture Explained" and is an index of Weinland's sermons which reference particular Bible verses.

Here's part of the page:

Weinland covered Deuteronomy Chapter 18 up through verse 19 which says:

19 If anyone does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name, I myself will call him to account.

Rather important words for a Prophet seeking more acolytes to hand him their life savings. Are there any more verses in Deuteronomy Chapter 18 past verse 19? Let's see. Oh, yes -- there are.

20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death."

21 You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?" 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.

Explain these verses, Ron.


Dennis said...

I would say that anytime a man sees HIMSELF specifically being referred to in the Bible....um, well... he may be mistaken.

No one ever won or can win an argument with a self appointed prophet, priest, apostle, watcher or witness. They seem themselves everywhere in the Bible. It's a sickness. They can bob and weave around anything. Could anyone have convinced the Apostle Paul, early on when he was "time is short" ing it that he was wrong? Nope. He simply had to live it out until he ran out of explanations and life and dropped off the roster.

When backed into a corner, they will take the precise scriptures you point out to them and say, "AND that's precisely WHY I am correct."

Throw in a little "and in the last days there shall be scoffers." and they are good keep going and going and going.......

RW has obviously said enough that can be quoted back to him about how honest he will be if he is wrong, (he has passed that point as we know) and how insane to otherwise would be and that he'd call himself a False Prophet. Never going to happen. He has blocked that, justified it and blamed others for taking it out of context, however you do that.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like that Ron is calling himself "that prophet." If so, that is the same position that Gerald Flurry is claiming. But "that prophet" is suppose to be accurate-right? and the position is getting a little crowded, as are the Two Witnesses, up now to more than 22, and counting(LOL)

Anonymous said...

Mike why don't you just end the suspense, since you know where RW lives and he"ll be home this weekend, just shoot him, if he is the end time witness, you'll die in the same manner or if he is a false prophet then he deserves to die.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous states,

"Mike why don't you just end the suspense, since you know where RW lives and he"ll be home this weekend, just shoot him, if he is the end time witness, you'll die in the same manner or if he is a false prophet then he deserves to die."

Life in prison is a deterrent, but if one believes in scripture it is probably not wise to tempt God. Why tempt fate?

Mike (EkimKS) said...

Anonymous 1:06's comment steps over the line and if not it's close to it.

At the risk of opening another line of discussion, let me say that if there is a god and if the bible is his word, I haven't been appointed the enforcement agent for carrying out Deut. 18:20. So - No, ain't gonna do it. I have no plans to go anywhere near the Two Witlesses or their mansion. And my refusal to follow your suggestion has nothing to do with any fear that whatever I do the the False Prophet would boomerang on me or that I'd end up a crispy critter. Nor do the barriers that Anonymous 5:04 mentioned have anything to do with it but those may be needed for those who are without morals or ethics.

Although Rotten Ronnie has called for my death, I have never called for his. My preferred outcomes are (in descending order):
A. ReFail Ron honors the commitment he made on March 29 to stop preaching because his prophecies have failed.
B. And if he doesn't, his followers rise up and throw their shoes at him. Well, not literally (or spiritually) but you get the idea. The shoes should cover their feet as they vote with them leaving the false prophet.
C. Some other factor such as IRS Criminal Investigation puts a stop to him.

As far as ending the suspense, not sure what you're talking about. I expect as Dennis alludes that Ron is going to continue prophelying and people are going to continue following. If I can help reduce the number of followers even by only a few then I feel it's worthwhile.

son-of-a-follower said...

Notice how he hasn't referenced those verses since Oct. 2007.

He didn't have any problem "reminding" his flock about this one though, this past October:

Deuteronomy 16:16 (King James Version):Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty.

His sermons are like comic relief for me. I find myself laughing out loud at some of the nonsense that spews out of his mouth.

I am amazed (and concerned) by the fact that anyone could take him seriously.
It truly is an awesome and powerful thing to understand.

Dill Weed said...

That's "awesome to know."

Dill Weed

Dill Weed said...

How will Ron separate himself from his predicition that there will be no inauguration?

He's gonna need to deal with this one soon.

Dill Weed

Anonymous said...

He'll deal with it the same way he dealt with "If by Pentecost..." (June 8, 2008): He'll keep pushing the sheeple merrily along, making sure they're too confused and thought-reformed, to pay attention that he's hand-waving and fluffing prophecies left, right, and dead centre, just so he and the missus can salvage a bit of retirement money before the REAL "end times" hit --- when the Feds finally close PKG's shop for good.

Mike (EkimKS) said...

How will Ron separate himself from his prediction that there will be no inauguration?

He's already begun the process. Several weeks ago he informed his followers that it wasn't a prophecy.