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Wednesday, December 24, 2008

Please Read "2008 God's Final Witness"

No, I haven't started drinking the Weinland Flavor Aid. This recommendation is for any of Ronnie's followers. When he stands up and delivers a sermon, see if what he says is in agreement with what is said in his book, which he claims is divinely inspired and is still correct even though he was presumptuous in setting up his first timeline and has since moved to timeline #2. Read Ron's book "2008 God's Final Witness" and see if it agrees with what he's currently saying.

And when he says that I've said something, read what I actually said. In last Saturday's sermon he said: "Some have read through some of the things in the book and have asked questions about 'Well, before the Seventh Seal was opened up and before the first trumpet all these thunders were supposed to have been accomplished.' No!!! That was never stated in those terms. It was a matter, even in the book, that it's a matter that those thunders are going to continue on." (Sermon file of Dec 20, at about 46 minutes.)

I'm going to assume that "Some" is yours truly because he used the term "Some" when he acknowledged on June 28 that I had figured out and published his second timeline and 50th "truth" a week before he announced it to his church. "Some" has written a series of posts on this blog about ReFail Ron's silent thunders. But "Some" didn't say that the thunders were supposed to be finished when the Seventh Seal was opened. I read what he said on page 96: "All Seven Thunders will increase in power and recognition over the next two years (from the date of the first printing of this book) and on into the final three and one-half years of great tribulation."

My criticism has been that the thunders have not been increasing in magnitude since he published his book. For example I showed that the economic impact of weather disasters has actually diminished since Weinland wrote the book. And one of the thunders hasn't sounded at all.

The first phase of the Fifth Thunder hasn't sounded at all. "Some"'s interpretation of Weinland's prophecy regarding the deaths of CoG ministry was that all five of the specific ministers he mentioned would be dead before the Seventh Seal opened and that the rest of the rank-and-file CoG ministry would die during the Great Tribulation. There's no point in quibbling about whether it meant that all five would die before the Seventh Seal or just part of the five specifically named ministers. Since not a single one of them has died, the the Fifth Thunder hasn't sounded at all, much much less sounding loudly when the Seventh Seal supposedly reopened on November 14.

When Ronnie stands up and blathers on during a sermon, check what he says against the book. If you have eyes to see, let them read. When he says that it could be up to a year before the Second Trumpet sounds, and he also says that it's the Second, Third, and Fourth Trumpets which bring the US down and that we're taken over during the Fifth Trumpet, how does that jive with his statement on the very last page of his divinely inspired book that the US will not be an independent nation within six months after the fall of 2008? (Listen to last Saturday's sermon at about 51 minutes and also 1 hour and 2 minutes. Also listen to the Nov. 1 sermon at 1 hour and 23 minutes. NOTE: these times are for the file versions which include the announcements -- if your file does not include announcements the file location may be earlier.) It's clear to me that the first five trumpets have to sound before next June 21 if "2008 God's Final Witness" is divinely inspired.

Ron, before you come up with your usual lame explanation for your contradictions that your followers will swallow whole, please answer this: Is "dying speedily" faster or slower than "dying early on" or "not long". I'm referring to the section in your book on pages 107-108:
"The most notable deaths early on, which are yet to come to pass, will be the two remaining television presenters in the Living Church of God. The sound of this thunder will be intensified by the early deaths of the leaders of the Philadelphia Church of God, the Restored Church of God and the Church of the Great God."
followed on page 108 by"
"How much more specific can one be to show that he is either of God, and indeed His prophet, or someone who has clearly stepped over the line to be dealt with by God in a speedy manner. Time will tell! And, you don’t have long to wait!"

The reason I ask is that if "speedily" is slower than "early on", I've got at least two years to live. You published your book two years ago, in December of 2006, and not one of these ministers have died. How much longer is "early on"?

I guess since it's been more than 100 hours since you issued your death curse against me, we'll not express "speedily" in seconds, minutes, or hours so it's expressed in units of at least days. So again Ron, is my "speedy death" going to be sooner or later than an "early death"?


Anonymous said...

It looks like we need another prophet to interpret "2008: God's Final Witness" because when Ronnie tries to explain his own book, it gets more muddy and confusing than the book of Revelation he is supposed to be interpreting! You can't get a straight answer out of the guy!

Anonymous said...

You usually can't get a straight answer from a crooked mouth, and RW is about as crooked as they come. You'll never get a straight answer out of him.

Anonymous said...

The true mocker is Ron Weinland. He is mocking God by continuously living in his sin of lies as an unrepentant false prophet. The people who follow him have turned away from God as well and fixed their eyes on this man, a false prophet.

Slother29 said...

what would the actual 2 witnesses think about Ron when they actually do come to this earth? i think they are the actual ones being mocked by the Weinlands' and since he wants "to die 3 days before christ's return" he probably is mocking Christ as well and does not want to pay the price that everyone alive on this earth will pay come his return. i frankly want to be alive when he returns but on Christ's side. so i can see what he(Christ) does to him(Ron) on that day, provided that day comes within my life time of course. if it does not i know that faith in his(Christ's) promises are all i need to be saved. not paying tithes to Ronny boy and hoping that he(Ronny) does not curse me for mocking him because of my believing in the rapture.

covert comic 635 said...

"because of my believing in the rapture"

If you're jumping on a trampoline when the Rapture comes and you leave your body, how many more times will your lifeless corpse bounce up and down, and will God be angry if you and your friends bet on this while you're floating up to heaven?

Anonymous said...

"If you're jumping on a trampoline when the Rapture comes and you leave your body, how many more times will your lifeless corpse bounce up and down, and will God be angry if you and your friends bet on this while you're floating up to heaven?"

The answer is: flower.

Anonymous said...

Ronald always complains that the world won't listen to him, won't accept his final warning message. That's right Ron. You got limited public exposure at first, but when your prophecies failed, and you didn't step down like you said you would, you became a liar. The world doesn't listen to liars and won't tolerate the lunacy of what you represent. Apart from those who drank your coolaid, why should anyone listen to a liar, which is what you are? The God I know doesn't lie and doesn't send messengers too lie on His behalf.

Slother29 said...

"If you're jumping on a trampoline when the Rapture comes and you leave your body, how many more times will your lifeless corpse bounce up and down, and will God be angry if you and your friends bet on this while you're floating up to heaven?"

im betting on the "left behind" view of the rapture. where there is no corpse "left behind" of the raptured person. just his/hers clothes. (blush)

pray for understanding said...

actually none of the other ministers were supposed to die before the tribulation started, as it states on page 107, 'every minister who was scattered, who fails to repent early on and returnto God will die during the final three and one half years of great tribulation.'

Mike (EkimKS) said...

If you're referring to ministers other than the five specific ones, I'll agree. And the fact that Raymond McNair died in October is yet another prophetic failure for Weinland.

Mel said...

To me, R. W. is a superhero.

Of a new category, of course.
I'll call him, "Pfffffft Man", short for prophetic Failure Man.

His brain is in his ass, and the brain farts he produces helps propel him through the air where he meets legitimate superheroes who then beat him up.

The "Silent Witness" finally speaks, as she says, "Here's the Bean-O", while trying to save him from more true superhero fists, so they can both go to Dizznee-Land on the dime of their 'marks'.

Don't MAKE me draw that!

Dramon Falling said...

Believers are silly and egotistical.

It constantly amazes me that a species that is only 200,000 years old believes that a universe that is 15,000,000,000 years old was created for and revolves around them.

Before modern science, this was understandable. Now it's just pathetic.

Oh well, at least this religious stupidity isn't killing anyone.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who states that it is the second coming of CHRIST is a False Prophet.

No it is not the second coming.