The Great Tribulation re-began this morning at 9:36 AM Eastern Time. According to False Prophet Ronald Weinland, the 1260 day begins at sunset in Jerusalem, which was 4:36 PM Jerusalem time. The first time around, back in April, Spokesman Witness Ron and Silent Witness Laura went to Jerusalem along with the Harrells. This time around they re-went to Jerusalem but without the Harrells. There was no prior announcement of this trip, so the Israeli authorities are not on the lookout for these sufferers of Jerusalem Syndrome.This sermon was a re-spin of the sermon he delivered on April 19 just after the first blowing of the First Trumpet. One difference was that Laura was in the hotel room with him. He says that he has grown and that he can now deliver sermons with only one other person in the room so that now Laura doesn't have to hide in the bathroom under a blanket. However the Silent Witness remained true to her moniker and we did not hear from her. But he has made another change to the government in his church. Laura has been ordained as a prophet and now ranks above all the evangelists, senior elders, and elders. So I guess they'll all be hearing from her. But she still ranks below Ron.
He spent some time blathering about great spiritual battles. Perhaps the IRS Criminal Investigation Division is homing in on him, and he is grooming Laura to keep things going while he's a guest at Club Fed.
In April Weinland stated that the pope was beginning to be influenced powerfully by Satan. He says that was true. So powerfully that we haven't seen any evidence of this influence.
Near the end of his sermon ReFail Ron seemed to reimpose his curse against his mockers. We've been dying from the inside out spiritually and now it will be physical. If you don't hear again from your blogger and from this other blogger then perhaps these might be the Two Witnesses.
As far as his other witness powers, he said that they would not be done unless for a great purpose and probably not until after the Fifth Trumpet. Using Witness powers to prove that Ron and Laura are the Two Witnesses so people will recognize it and repent is not a great enough purpose. So I guess we won't be seeing blood in Fountain Square for quite some time.
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I believe that, given all of the flamboyance of Weiner Dude and the COGmeisters existing in parallel ACOG dimensions, pretty much the only thing left for any of these heretical carney barkers to do is to actually lead a band of followers to Petra. Will we see this in the coming year? Who knows! They grew up believing that everything would be fulfilled during their lifetimes, are rapidly growing old, and are getting desperate for some action.
It must be sad to reflect and realize that you've wasted your entire life on fallacy.
BB
The Prophet who was Wrong.
I found myself wondering what would be “awesome to know” in Ron’s sermon today. (And was I in for a surprise!)
I didn’t have to wait long as I went to download it. I checked for new posts (in addition to the sermon)and lo… there was one!
There is this gem:
… Laura and I are once again in Jerusalem as we were last April when we believed we were at this point in time then.
Wha?!
In April, when you believed AND announced to the world that The Great Tribulation had begun and that you and your wife were the Two Witnesses of Revelation? When you believed, but were… wrong?
What makes it different this time, Ron?
"And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days…"
Ron, you should be feeling pretty good as you have been imbued with power from God. I think there should be proof positive as to whether you are correct this time, no? And…
"these have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire…. And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth."
Test whether you are correct this time. Ron, are you able to to perfom miracles? How are you going to “torment those who dwell on the earth”? (I think I’ve figured this out – through your sermons.)
Absolute proof Ron is deluded:
"This is a very sobering time for my wife and me as we are in the city that God prophetically describes as Sodom (spiritually). We are in a hotel room a block away from where we can look down upon one of the higher points of the old city and specifically at the Jaffa Gate. It is in this area where the two witnesses will be killed and three and one-half days later, Jesus Christ will begin His return to this earth as King of kings."
Ron believes he and his wife are going to be killed in Egypt in 1260 days.
I assume he wrote this with a straight face. (Chuckles) O.K., I’ll play along! (More chuckles) Ron, we looking forward to a lot more chuckles from you.
Intermission
Have you heard the bird is the word? Bird! Bird! Bird! Bird, is the word! – Peter Griffin. This is a super funny episode of Family Guy. Family Guy will punch your ticket to Hell, but you’ll go laughing. Family Guy has something to offend everyone. It’s a great show.
Sermon Summary
Ron got sick on some airline food… blah, blah, blah….
Things that are going to happen aren’t going to be “given” until they happen, so the demons aren’t tipped off.
Like demons could thwart God’s will, right?
Ron’s attempting to remove the expectation that he be specific. Weasel.
Egypt, the Nile… blah, blah, blah….
Book of Daniel, statue, legs of iron… blah, blah, blah….
Ron saw some pyramids… blah, blah, blah….
Apparently, did some sight seeing too…. blah, blah, blah….
Psalm 106… blah, blah, blah….
Its good to begin at the beginning of prayers (Wha?!)…blah, blah, blah….
Ron can’t comprehend how God hears everyone’s prayers at once… SO WHAT? Blah, blah, blah….
(It’s painful to listen to him wander.)… blah, blah, blah….
Blamed church members for doubting when what he said didn’t come true. (Imagine that!) It was Lacodecia creeping back into the church and members ‘couldn’t comprehend what happened or how big it was.’ (Yawn, gimme a friggin’ break) Tap dance continues…
Donkeys, tractors, Ramadan… blah, blah, blah….
FAQ contains more scriptural explanations. (Wonderful.)
Not going to debate about scriptures anymore. It’s a New Age. We tell it, you believe it or else. Literally.
Because ther church is no longer in the Laodician age…
Ron’s wife will be over all ministers! (This is too friggin’ good.)
Ron’s wife has been ordained as a prophet and therefore as a minister, an over-minister mind you, second only to Ron!
(Too funny, this is just too good!)
Laura’s role will intensify after the 5th trumpet. (Yeah!)
(Aww, man, it was worth listening just for this!)
All people (including all non-Weinland believers) will not recognize what is happening UNTIL the 2nd trumpet has sounded.
God speaks to Ron in his mind. (Eye roll)… blah, blah, blah….
Still expecting a large influx of people…. blah, blah, blah….
Trumpet of April 17th– not one of the Seven trumpets – just an warning toot. (O.K., Ron)…
In April, God’s Two End Time Witnesses were revealed 8 months early and the Pope came under the influence of Satan!
Ron calls these ‘thunders’. (Whatever.)
5th Trumpet 1/3 of U.S. will be destroyed. Uh-huh. (spiritually?)
1st Trumpet… starting Dec. 14th … hail, fire, 1/3 trees and grass burnt up, BUT THIS is spiritual - so don’t expect to see anything. (Big Surprise)
We’ll have to wait for the 2nd Trumpet and its physical evidence until everyone finally knows The Great Tribulation has begun.
Opponents will die spiritually and physically.
Tick Tock
Dill Weed
Byker Bob:
Weiner Dude does not teach the Petra doctrine. God will protect his members in place, or warn them when/where to flee.
Dill Weed:
ReRead the False Prophet's blog posting. It was started while ILFPRW was in Cairo and completed while in Jerusalem and posted about Jerusalem sunset. Mr and Mrs False Prophet are still to die in Jerusalem.
Wow. No Petra? Guess that shows how much or little attention I've actually paid to the Dude.
Still, as a former WCG person, I feel for his flock! Hope his failure wisens them up, but I'm not holding my breath.
BB
In my experience, I think you can pretty much tell God's true servants by the quality of their death threats against their "critics", "detractors" and "foes."
Dave Pack is on record for noting the amazing number of people who die oppposing him. Ron of course is hoping for such good results to give himself a boost in his own ratings and there are others who wish death upon the infidels who notice they tend towards lunacy.
Can you imagine living in a "wonderful world tomorrow" with these types back and in charge of anything?
Lord ...save me from your followers.
I listened to his Jerusalem Sermon. Ron has the amazing ability to to take 1:48 to give a 10 minute sermon.
What he thinks is "profound" and needs to be listend to again for better understanding, has less content than most Sunday school lessons I grew up with.
incareofLaura,
In Weinland’s most recent sermon, Ronnie meantioned that Laura the 2nd end-time witness has spent many Sabbaths laying in the bathtub with a blanket, while he delivers his sermon in the hotel room. Now, this is sick, sick, sick, sick. Absolutely disqusting, Ron…the least you should have done is paid for 2 rooms - the tithe money kept rolling in… didn’t it. That’s a shame to have your wife locked in a bathroom with a blanket for approximately 2 hours. Shame on you - Ron.
I kinda of thought he was joking about his wife in the tub. He could have just sent her to the lobby or shopping with some tithe money.
I think Ron made a big mistake elevating his wife above the other elders. This is gonna rub people the wrong way, no matter how devout they appear. Don't think there are gonna be some conversations about this in peoples homes. LOL.
Wait until she starts exercising her authority. Ron just keeps digging himself in deeper.
Dill Weed
The only reason his wife is the "second witness" is to keep the tithe money in the family. Ronnie knows--share the power = share the wealth.
In my best Marvin Martain voice (Copyright Warner Bors)
"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth shattering kaboom?"
""Oh, that wasn't a bit nice...You have made me very angry... very angry indeed!" "
Laura has been ordained a "Profit".
It's the 14th of December. The only thing I found in the news was an Iraqi journalist threw his shoes at president Bush today in Baghdad.
A little prayer I found that Ron could possibly benefit from.
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
Lord, lord, lord. Protect me from the consequences of the above prayer. ~Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless
In regards to his most recent sermon, although this quote could be attributed to almost all of them:
Bullsh*t is unavoidable whenever circumstances require someone to talk without knowing what he is talking about. Thus the production of bullsh*t is stimulated whenever a person's obligations or opportunities to speak about some topic are more extensive than his knowledge of the facts that are relevant to that topic.
Harry G. Frankfurt, Essay On Bullsh*t
Didn't one of the ACOG leaders forecast that some sort of nuclear device would be exploded in a major city in the USA sometime during 2008? If memory serves me correctly it was some dingleberry other than the Weiner Dude.
BB
In association with Weinland's first timeline, he prophesied that with the Second Trumpet there would be "nukular" explosions in port cities by July 16.
In this second timeline, he is not making any such specific prophecies.
Ron and Laura have seen fit to allow it to rain in the American Southeast. We were parched.
Dill Weed
So now is the time line different but the effect of the time line as well. Hmmmm. First it is nuclear explosions and massive devistation by July.
Now it is something non-specific and much subtler that may take some time to become evedent?
Ouch. Couldn't have been more different. I tell you what, if it is the GT and I get taken out, upon seeing God and his judgment on my lack of faith I will have to point to Weinerland and say, "Hey, I was confused - you sent a dufus as a messanger".
Proof positive according to Ron:
Ron in his 1260 Days sermon said the 2nd trumpet would have physical and spiritual fullfillment.
“This will be seen BY ALL. THIS HAS NOT CHANGED.”
All will see this believers and unbelievers alike:
Something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
So… look up for a great firey mountain screaming across the sky.
Ron has hung his hat on this one. This will need to happen soon because there are the 5 other trumpets and the bowls, too and all in 3 1/2 years.
Ron said the 1st Trumpet was 'spiritual'.
Tick Tock
Dill Weed
Check that he said the 1st Trumpet was physical and spiritual and more would be 'given'.
But he tied himself specifically to the 2nd Trumpet as proof.
Dill Weed
"But he tied himself specifically to the 2nd Trumpet as proof."
He did that the first time, too.
(The excerpt is from Weinland's March 29, 2008 sermon, and he is referring to June 8, 2008.)
Thanks, Purple!
At least Ron is consistent, consistently wrong.
: P
Dill Weed
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