On June 28 after his first timeline failed, False Prophet Ronald Weinland rolled out his 50th "truth" and the second timeline which was approximately an 8-month delay from the first timeline. The following Saturday, July 5, Weinland addressed some questions he'd received:
Why did you change all the timelines? Why did you change everything that was in the book?
Weinland's response:
"It hasn’t been rewritten. It’s the same book. Nothing has changed in the content of the two books. Period. Every once in awhile we’ve had maybe a little bit edited, a word maybe that is misspelled, or something of that nature. But that’s been rare. Especially in the second book, thankfully.”
On December 21, I posted my Winter Solstice post concerning the last page of "2008 God's Final Witness" which reads:
By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, or it will have begun its collapse and no longer exist as an independent nation within six months after that time.
From his July 5 statement and what's written on the last page of the book, it was clear that he was maintaining his prophecy that the US would be "down the tubes" by June 21 of this year which is 6 months after the end of Fall of 2008.
In his December 27 sermon, Weinland stated that he'd had a couple of questions the prior week about the issue raised in my blog post about the last page of his book. (Some of his members read my blog.) He phrased the question as:
“You mean everything is postponed by 8 months? "
And in his response, he said:
If it is, so be it. ….. Things did change. And it did affect some things and why they were written in the book.
And a few minutes later on.
“Everything has been affected by the change of 8 months….. That changed everything.”
These statements are within the first few minutes of the sermons on those dates.
To review, in July nothing in the book had changed. But in December it had changed by 8 months. So, what will his explanation be after allowing for another 8 months and his prophecies are still failed? Will we have a 51st Truth and another timeline? I look for it to happen.
One thing I not looking for is my speedy death from the inside. Sixty-six days and it still hasn't happened.
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Lest we forget.
"Ron, will you come on the Edge in December 2008 and explain why your prohecies have not been fulfilled?"
To which he answered: "Well, let's put it this way, if we come to a point in time where what I said doesn't take place, the reality is that I'm just a false prophet, because that's the bottom line, and that's it. Uh, there'd be no other answer. I [unintelligble] cannot say that. There would be absolutely no other answer. I know that other religious people do when they say a certain time, if you want to look at Ellen White, if you want to go back and look at different time, and different people in history, the people who made prophecies, religious people and so forth, and they haven't come to pass, well, they give all these reasons why, uh, it's gonna happen in five more years, we were, God's led us to understand that, and so they go on from one point to another point to another point until they die. The reality is if it doesn't happen, then you're just false. There's nothing else to say, what else could I say?"
Apparently he has a lot else to say. Liar.
"One thing I not looking for is my speedy death from the inside"
Hi Mike
I've been thinking about "die speedily" and "speedy death". Did you used to drive racing cars professionally, and then stopped because of Ron's awesome dumbfounding powers?
Actually he said I was to die speedily from the inside.
Haven't raced cars. But maybe I should start. Based on Ron's curse, I couldn't be killed in a car wreck.
Just watch out for any facehuggers from the Alien movies. That's a surefire way to "die speedily from the inside".
Weinland is a hoax. Why do you people spend so much energy downplaying his idiocy? So he is another guy who runs around taking money from gullable people. Like that has never happened before...Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, the list is long! You are not protecting anyone. Ok Ok, Weinland is a hoax. I get it. Now maybe we can talk about someone we can do something about like Obama.
"Why do you people spend so much energy downplaying his idiocy?"
Huh???
"Now maybe we can talk about someone we can do something about like Obama."
Start your own blog and talk about Obama all you want.
"Like that has never happened before...Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Baker, the list is long!"
And just think about all the suffering that could have been avoided if blogs like this one were in place for people who gave their life savings and life energy for con artists like Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Baker. Heck, if we had access to the Internet when HWA was young, I bet he wouldn't have been nearly as successful as he was (with all his wealth building in Pasadena). Instead, the only truth we had about the church was in a van parked outside on the street near the headquarters waving bright neon signs.
I would also say that the reason the other COG splinters haven't taken hold or expanded much beyond their original membership (which is slowly declining) is because we have access to information about the danger of these cults like we have never had before.
This blog obviously isn't a place for you because you frankly don't care about any of these people. That's the real reason this blog is here. It's not about Ron Weinland, it's about the people that he is affecting.
Hi Mike,
SO, I did say I wouldn't respond, and/or say anything about this "blog" anymore. Who is Ellen White?
One more thing,
Anon, used to be ALL about anti-Weinland, why the "switch"?
Hi Stephanie.
Heres some information on Ellen White
And "Anonymous" is what blogger fills in for anyone and everyone who's too lazy to click the "Name/URL" button and type in a name. So any number of individuals are tagged as "Anonymous".
"Instead, the only truth we had about the church was in a van parked outside on the street near the headquarters waving bright neon signs."
Don't forget the illicit mimeographed copies of The Ambassador Report.
Not that reading AR would have amounted to a hill of beans, when I was in. Nothing could have pulled me out of the cult, I was their perfect little drone.
As a matter of fact, if Senior hadn't made me wake up and smell the coffee about religion, I would probably be in a splinter to this day.
(Not Weinland's. Most of the members who exited from my congregation ended up with United.)
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